FIRED FROM A BAZOOKA

Published on: March 24, 2014
Categories: REPAIR, REPAIRS WARRANTY, RESTORATION

THERE ARE PLENTY OF VINTAGE ANTIQUE WATCHES WITH ORIGINAL DIALS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE FIRED FROM A BAZOOKA. YOU SEE THEM ON THE FORUMS. PEOPLE ALL GIDDY ABOUT THEIR NEW OLD MINERVA WITH ORIGINAL DIAL. YOU TAKE A LOOK AND SEE THAT THE DAMAGED DIAL IS SO BAD YOU SIMPLY THINK: WHY HE WOULD BUY IT, IT MUST BE WORTH A LOT? NOW, I HAVE BEEN BANNED ON AND OFF MANY TIMES ON WATCH FORUMS. SEEMS PEOPLE CAN BE SO SET IN THEIR WAYS. MANY SIMPLY ARE IGNORANT OF THE FACTS IN THE NEW WORLD OF THE VINTAGE WATCH TRADE; SUCH AS THE FACT MILITARY WATCHES DO NOT HAVE TO BE SUPPLIED BY THE GOVERNMENT TO BE MILITARY.

 WHAT OF 21ST CENTURY GALILEO’S? ONE TIME I GOT BANNED AFTER I REPLIED TO A CRITICAL YET UNFOUNDED POST CONCERNING WORLD WAR TWO TRENCH WATCHES. THE POSTER STATED THAT MY STATEMENTS ON A TRENCH WATCH OFFER WERE INCORRECT. THAT THE MILITARIES OF THE WORLD SUPPLIED MORE WATCHES TO SOLDIERS THEN THE SOLDIERS PURCHASED THEM SELVES. 

 IN  ANSWER TO THIS, I POSTED A REPLY WITH A PICTURE FROM 1917 SHOWING A SHOP IN THE UNITED STATES WITH THEIR WINDOWS HOLDING TONS OF TRENCH WATCHES; LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF WWI TRENCH WATCHES AND KITCHNER STRAPS IN THE WINDOW. FOUR DOLLAR A WATCH, TEN CENTS A KITCHENER

 IT BLEW AWAY A GROUP OF MODERN DAY 14TH CENTURY INQUISITORS OF THE GALILEO THINKERS OF THE 21ST CENTURY.

 I ARGUED AGAIN WITH THESE OLDY BUT GOODIES UNTIL I REALIZED I IN FACT WAS AN OLDY; AN EDUCATED OLDY AT THAT, BECAUSE I STATED THAT MORE WATCHES WERE MADE IN WWII BY COMPANIES WITH BETTER MOVEMENTS  AND DESIGNS THEN THOSE ISSUED BY THE US OR BRITISH MILITARY. THAT MORE 101ST AIR BORNE TROOPERS PURCHASED THEIR WATCHES THEN RECEIVED ANY FROM UNCLE SAM! AND THEN, ONCE AGAIN, FROM MY 10,000   ADVERTISING IMAGE COLLECTION, I FOUND A TON TO BACK IT UP. ONE IN PARTICULAR BY THE GRUEN COMPANY HAD 8 DESIGNS EACH ONE ADDRESSING A PARTICULAR BRANCH OF THE US MILITARY. THEY ADVERTISED TO THE UNIFORM SOLDIER PILOT,NURSE, MEDIC ETC.THE JEWEL COUNT SHOCK SYSTEM AND GRADE WAS AT LEAST STEPS HIGHER THAN THE GOVERNMENT WATCHES.

 YOU SEE, A 101ST SGT, SAY HIS NAME WAS JONES, HE INVESTS IN AN ADVERTISED WATCH IN A PX, BX OR JEWELRY STORE. SAY IT IS A GRUEN. A GROUP OF PRIVATES SEE IT AND OOGLE AND GOOGLE IN WWII FASHION   UNTIL THEIR NEXT THEIR LEAVE OR PASS, WHEN THEY STROLL DOWN A STREET AND COME UPON A WATCH AND JEWELRY SHOP. IN THE WINDOW IS THE SAME WATCH AS JONE’S WATCH! WITHIN 9 MONTHS 1000 JONES WATCHES ARE ON THE PACIFIC BEACHES OF PELELIU

 WHEN I FIRST WROTE THAT UPON THE DEFEAT OF THE RUSSIANS BY THE JAPANESE IN 1905, AND HOW HATTORI THE SAME HATTORI OF SEIKOSHA THEN SEIKO FAME, BEGAN TO SEND HIS MINIONS ACROSS THE GLOBE IN QUEST OF TIME TELLING TECHNOLOGY, AND HOW 1917 – 1919 HATTORI WAS USING SWISS AND AMERICAN MOVEMENTS IN THEIR WATCHES –AND THEN HOW THEY ACTUALLY BEGAN TO BUILD WATCH MOVEMENTS IN MIMICK OF THESE AMERICAN AND SWISS MOVEMENTS, TO THE POINTY THAT ACTUAL PARTS FROM ONE TO THE OTHER COULD BE EXCHANGED AND WORK WELL, THAT LED TO 9 MONTH BAN ON ANOTYHER FORUM BECAUSE NO MATTER THE PROOF, SOME INDIVIDUALS  SIMPLY ARE SET IN THEIR WAYS. BUT YOU AS THE COLLECTOR OR RESTORER MUST BE KNOWLEDGEABLE ON ALL FACETS OF THE INDUSTRY ANS WELL AS THE HISTORY.

AND NOW LET US COVER THE GREATEST AREA OF VINTAGE TIME: THE DIAL. THOUGH SOME DIALS SHOULD NEVER BE RESTORED, THE VAST MAJORITY SHOULD BE RESTORED. FOR EVERY ONE DIE HARD THAT WANTS THE OLD AND WORN ORIGINAL DIAL, THERE ARE 20 WHO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A RESTORED VERSION AND PAY MORE FOR IT. RESTORED VINTAGE WATCHES ARE PRETTY RARE. WHEN YOU HAND DOWN A PROFESSIONALLY RESTORED VINTAGE TIME  PIECE, SAY,10, 20, 30 YEARS OR SO FROM NOW, WELL, WHICH ONE WILL BRING THE MOST CASH? THE RESTORED…. UNLESS IT IS SAY A PATEK…

 ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN MY CONVICTIONS. FIRST, IT IS ABSOLUTE STUPIDITY TO CLAIM A DIAL IS ORIGINAL WHEN IN FACT IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT WORTH IT. THE HIGH END VINTAGE WATCH WITH ORIGINAL DIAL IS GOING TO MEAN PROFIT EVEN AFTER ENJOYING THE WATCH A DECADE OR TWO AND WEARING IT DURING THAT TIME. YET THE RESTORED DIALED VINTAGE WATCH IN 90% OF ALL CIRCUMSTANCES IS WORTH MORE THAN THE WORN ORIGINAL. EXCEPTING IN CERTAIN MAKES MODELS AND BRANDS, KEEPING AN ORIGINAL DIALS ORIGINAL DEPENDS ON CONDITION.

 YET THERE IS THE ILLUMINATION FACTOR; WHICH IS IN A CATEGORY ON IT’S OWN. RE-ILLUMINATING DIALS IS THE ABSOLUTE GREATEST WAY TO FINISH A TIME PIECE– UNLESS, MY READER, THE COLOR PALATE DEAD 

RADIUM IS VISABLE AS SHADES OF PALE TO DEEP ORANGE COLOR AND THERE IS NO BREAKS OR MISSING MATERIAL. THIS COLORED DEAD RADIUM LOOKS GREAT. OTHER THAN THAT FACT, IN MOST SITUATIONS IT IS OK TO ILLUMINATE HANDS AND INDICES, BOTS OR WHATEVER.

IN ALL CASES I WILL ATTEMPT TO RETAIN ORIGINAL DIALS AS ORIGINAL. YET I DO NOT PROSCRIBE TO THE NOTION THAT THE ORIGINAL, NO MATTER THE CONDITION, INCREASES THE VALUE. ADDITIONALLY, AS MY WRITING ABOVE, I NEVER, NEVER,. NEVER CLAIM A DIAL IS ORIGINAL UNLESS IT IS. WHY? AM I SO HONEST MY NOSE GROWS WHEN I TELL A LIE? HECK NO. I CAN LIE WITH THE GREATEST OF LIARS IF I CHOOSE. THE FACT IS, IN THE REAL WORLD RESTORED DIALS ARE PURCHASED 15 TO EVERY 1 ORIGINAL. THUS, I HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ON WHAT TO KEEP AND WHAT TO LEAVE. IN THE CASE [MY PUN MIND YOU] OF A TRULY VALUABLE TIME PIECE, SAY THE LAST 2 PATEK WATCHES I RESTORED, OR THE LAST 18K PATEK TIFFANY W/TIFFANY SIGNED MOVEMENT, CASE, AND DIAL, THE BRAND WARRANTED THAT I LEAVE THE DIALS AS IS. EVEN BROKEN, CHIPPED AND/OR WORN.

WAIT ONE SECOND. I DO NOT DESIRE TO FORGET THIS THOUGHT. NOT ALL DIALS THAT ARE ORIGINAL WERE ACTUALLY ORIGINAL TO THE DIAL ON A WATCH. WHAT I AM SAYING IS, I BUY DIALS. I JUST PURCHASED AN OMEGA  DIAL, WITH MOVEMENT AND A CASE BACK CONTAINING WWII TRENCH ART AND A UNIT BADGE. WOW IT IS FANTASTIC. BUT I HAVE NOT THE CASE, OR, AS IT IS CALLED, BEZEL. SO I AM LOOKING FOR ONE. WHEN I FIND AND INSTALL MY PARTS I WILL SELL IT.

IS THIS A FRANKEN WATCH? NO. NOT. IT WILL BE AN ORIGINAL WWII. I WILL LIST THE FACTS. FOR THE CASE HAS TO BE ORIGINAL TO THE DIAL, MOVEMENT AND CASE BACK U HAVE. HERE ME? READ ME? IT WILL BE AN ORIGINAL, SOLD AS ORIGINAL AND APPRAISED AS ORIGINAL, OF COURSE I WILL LIST THE  CASE OR BEZEL AS ORIGINAL. IT IS ORIGINAL TO THIS WATCH I MAS RESTORING, TECHNICALLY NO, BUT IT IS NO DIFFERENT FROM CHANGING A ROLEX DIAL FOR THE VERY SAME YEAR, MAKE MODEL DIAL THAT IS NOT DAMAGED. I WILL SAY I WAS ABLE TO FIND AN ORIGINAL DIAL FROM A SAME ROLEX ON A SIMILAR DATE AND MODEL. VALUE IS MORE FROM THE OLD ONE BECAUSE THE OLD DIAL WAS SHOT. GET THAT?

SO, HOW DO WE MAKE A PATEK 29K WATCH LOOK NEW WHEN THE PRICE OF 20K WILL BE 10K WITH OUT THAT THE DARN CRACKED AND BEAT UP DIAL?

 

MAN, THIS IS A CASE [PUN TOO] WHICH REQUIRES THE REMOVING OF THE DAMAGED DIAL, WRAPPING IT UP FOR SAFE KEEPING, AND CREATING A NEW OLD DIAL IN MINT CONDITION WITH EXACT FONTS, PLACEMENT, ETC, THEN  MOUNTING THIS NEW DIAL ON THE WATCH, AND SELLING IT WITH NEW AND ORIGINAL DIAL. THAT IS HOW ONE KEEPS AND SELLS THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. WHY LIE, CHEAT, STEAL AND BURN? WHEN IT IS SOLD, THE INVESTOR HAS BOTH. YES; THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MORE THAN LIKELY WAS NOT, AM NOT, THE FIRST TO PROSCRIBE THIS ENTITY.  BUT, AS A SELF-TAUGHT EVERYTHING, IT CAME TO ME IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ENJOY A TIME PIECE WHILE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THE ORIGINAL DIAL LOCKED UP AND SAFE. OR SAFE AS IN A SAFE? PUN ALSO?.

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