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WELCOME TO GOLDSMITHWORKS EBAY STOREFRONT. GOLDSMITHWORKS AND MILITARY WATCH BOX, WITH A BEAUTIFUL STUDIO AND GALLERY LOCATED IN SUWANEE GA ARE STATE LICENSED PRECIOUS METAL DEALERS, JEWELERS, GOLDSMITH AND WATCHMAKERS, AND ARE IN$URED THROUGH JEWELERS MUTUAL. WE ARE A MEMBER OF JEWELERS OF AMERICA, THE SOCIETY OF NORTH AMERICAN GOLDSMITHS,POLYGON, THE DIAMOND NETWORK AND HOLD A MEMBERSHIP IN THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF WATCH AND CLOCK COLLECTORS. OUR TOLL FREE NUMBER IS 800-438-6894

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THOUGH GSW/MWB OPERATES AN AWESOME  BRICK AND MORTAR STUDIO & GALLERY & 5 WEBSITES ON A DEDICATED SERVER WITH OVER 30,000 PICTURES OF RESTORATIONS, AND HAVE OFFERED OUR SERVICES SINCE 1989 [JOINED THE INTERNET 1992], EBAY HAS BECOME OUR EXCLUSIVE MARKETING ENTITY FOR OUR OPERATION. WE NOT ONLY SELL EXCLUSIVELY THROUGH THE BAY, WE INVEST IN DOZENS WATCHES FROM FELLOW WATCH SELLERS ON THE BAY EVERY MONTH THROUGH SEVERAL ACCOUNTS. GSW STRIVES TO ABIDE BY EBAY POLICES WHILE  PROVIDING INFORMATION TO EDUCATE AND ASSIST YOU IN MAKING A DETERMINATION ON WHY YOU SHOULD INVEST WITH GSW/MWB FOR THIS OR ANOTHER GSW VINTAGE WATCH OFFERING, AND/OR ASSIST YOUR INVESTMENT THROUGH A COMPETING SELLER.  THUS, WE HAVE PLACED THESE POP-UP LINKS TO PAGES THAT WILL ASSIST YOU WHILE MAINTAINING ADHERENCE TO EBAY POLICY.

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FANTASTIC
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SERIAL# 42990173

42,500,000 = 1944
BALELESS SINGLE HOLD DOWN

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ALLOW ME TO OFFER SOME FACTS AND HISTORY OF THE ELGIN NATIONAL WATCH COMPANY AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION OF STOP WATCHES,  TO US AND UK AIR FORCES DURING WWII, SPECIFIVALLY THEELGIN A-8 NAVIGATION  WATCH

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THE A-8 IS A 10 SECONDS STOP WATCH THAT WAS UTILZED BY NAVIGATION CREWS TO SET THE GROUND SPEED OF NEARLY EVERY BOMBER THAT SERVED [OTHER PLANES ALSO USED THE A-8] IN THE VARIOUS FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES AND MANY BRITISH FORCES. IT WAS NAMED THE "JITTERBUG" BY AIR CREWS DUE TO THE FACT NOISE IT MADE WHEN RUNNING. MOST OF THE A-8 TIMERS WERE BLACK FACE WITH WHITE NUMERALS.

Air speed indicators on WWII aircraft were controlled by air being forced into the air speed indicator as you flew your plane. The problem was as you gained altitude less and less air entered the device and there was always cross winds straight winds so your speed, relative to the ground, was going to be either lower or higher depending on whether you are flying into the wind or with the wind. Gropund speed was required to precisely know your air speed which was important of you wanted to bomb a target, drop men from the plane, to preceisely time your flight.. and navigate properly.

To figure your actual ground-speed and compare it to the airspeed indicator and then adjust your navigation calculations accordingly, the pilot or navigator would pick out, say, a pair of known parallel roads or other landmarks that were already distance measured,  they would then click the A-8 10 second timer on at the first mark then off at the second. Using the elapsed time along with calculations they could figure their actual ground speed and adjust instruments.

 

ELGIN A-8
Grade 582
US Army-Airforce
KNOWN AS:
Watch. Navigation
(Ground Speed)
Type A-8.

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YELLOW JITTERBUG
GREEN IS OUR TIMER

NAMED "THE JITTERBUG" DUE TO THE SMALL BALANCE THAT
ROTATES SO FAST IT SOUNDS LIKE A JITTERBUG

NOTE: THE A-8 IS US GOV MIL DESIGNATION SO THERE ARE ALSO RARE WALTRHAM A-8 WATCHES OPERATING THE SAME BUT WITH DIFFERENT WALTHAM MOVEMENTS/CALIBERS.

NOW WE COME TO OUR OFFER. AWWII  ELGIN   TIMER.

THIS ELGIN IS SO RARE WE HAVE FOUND/SEEN/ DISCOVERD ONLY 4 OF THESE IN 4 YEARS. THIS TIMER BY ELGIN IS CASED IN SOLID NICKLE. IT HAS A DOUBLE HINGED CASE BACK WITH INNER CASE BACK THAT SEALS MOVEMENT AND A OUTER CASE BACK WITH 4 HOLES: WHUCH MAKES THIS THE STRANGEST AND RAREST WWII TIMER USED BY THE FLYING FORCES.

 

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EXAMINING SERIAL NUMBERS THE LEFT SERIAL IS THE JITTERBUG QAND THE RIGHT SERIAL IS THIS OUR TIMER. YOU WE CAN TELL BY THE NUMBERS THAT THEY WERE MADE WITHIN   MONTHS OF ONE ANOTHER

OUR CONCLUSION THAT THIS WATCH IS MILITARY WENT BEYOND THE SERIAL NUMBERS NOT ONLY DATING THE PIECE TO MID-1944, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE   SIDE BY SIDE WITH A-8 PRODUCTION SERIALS.  IN ADDITION, THE MOVEMENT LACKED TWO FEATURES THAT WOULD MAKE IT AN A-8, IN FACT IT WAS BASED ON THE SAME ELGIN MILITARY MOVEMENT UTILIZED IN THE A-8

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ELGIN TIMER SIGNED/SERIAL NUMBERED TO MID 1944.

YOU SEE, AFTER I INVESTED IN THIS BEAUTY AND RECEIVED IT I THOUGHT, HECK, I GOT ANMOTHER "IT RUNS" ONLY TO FIND OUYT SOMETHING DID NOT WORK!!! IT HAD WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A PROBLEM..

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WITH A COOL LEATHER POUCH IN OVERALL FANTASTIC CONDITION.

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A LITTLE STITCHING AND BAM SHE WAS PERFECT

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PERFECT

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THE LOOK IS SIMPLY STUNNING

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I LEFT THE BLUING ON THE BRASS SNAP

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THE POUCH AND TIMER ARE EXCELLENT

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THE FEATURES OF THIS WATCH WERE SIMPLY UNHEARD OF. AND THE CASE BACK HOLES WERE BURNING HOLES IN HIS BRAIN SO...I WENT ON A SEARCH FOR A BROTHER OR SISTER. AND THEN AFTER 12 HOURS ONLINE, I ACTUALLY STUMBLED ONTO ONE :

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THE FACT THAT IT WAS MILITARY WAS EASY TO DETERMINE FOR THE TIME PIECE WAS EXACTELY LIKE THIS ONE BELOW, WHICH HAS THE " GADGET "THAT FIT THE REAR HOLES ATTACHED TO THE CASE BACK WITH A STICKER WITH THE WORDS/WRITING THAT IT WAS OVERHAULED AT A ORDINANCE AND REPAIR DEPO AT A NAVAL AIR STATION:

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OVERHAULED
O&R NAS NI

WHICH MEANS
Ordinance & Repair
Naval Air Station North Island
Coronado, CA

THUS, WITH A FEW CHANGES, SUCH AS 60 SECONDS TIMER, WITH LARGER BALANCE, IT WAS JUST LIKE THE A-8 AND WAS MILITARY , MADE BY ELGIN AND MADE FOR THE MILITARY..

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HERE WE SEE THE ELGIN MILITARY BLACK RATCHET & CROWN WHEEL
WE ALSO SEE THE DEVICE THAT BOLTS TO THE HOLES IN THE CASE BACK

 

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HERE IS OURS WITHOUT THE PIECE THAT ATTACHES TO CASE BACK

BUT THE PROBLEM WAS STILL THERE. FOR SOME REASON IT ONLY WORKED WHEN YOU PHYSICALLY PUSHED AND HELD THE CROWN DOWN. MAN, I WAS TICKED... A. 60 SECONDS ELGIN TIMER THAT WAS UNLIKE ANYTHING I HAD SEEN - COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN ANY ONE OF OUR 75 TIMERS COVERING 35 DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND STYLES. IN FACT, BEFORE I OVERHAULED IT, I HAD TO FIND THE PART THAT WERE BROKE OR MISSING IN THE MOVEMENT AND FIX IT.!

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LEFT, AN ELGIN A-8 JITTERBUG TIMER
RIGHT THIS ELGIN 60 SECOND TIMER

MILITARY WWII TIMER THAT WAS RARE.THE CONTROL MECHANISM IS LOCATED UNDER THE DIAL. I OPENED AN A-8 AND THE ELGIN I RECEIVED AND COMPARED THEM, I KNEW I HELD AN ELGIN

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ALL TIMERS, STOP WATCHES AND CHRONOGRAPHS OPERATE THE SAME. THEY HAVE BUTTONS, PUSHERS, AND/OR PUSH IN CROWNS TO OPERATE THE TIMER. EACH ONE HAS FROM ONE TO THREE OF THESE THAT WORK A COMBINATION; YOU HAVE TO PUSH SOMETHING TO START THE CENTER SECONDS HAND GOING.

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HOW IT WORKS IS THAT WHEN THE SECONDS HAND TURNS AND PASSES THE "TOP"  [ "10" "12",  "30" "60"   SECONDS]  IT THEN TURNS A MECHANISM THAT TURNS THE SMALL HAND IN THE UPPER REGISTER TO RECORD HOW MANY ROTATIONS. EACH TURN THIS IS REPEATED AS IT PASSES "TOP". THUS, RECORDING WHAT THE TIMER TIMES. A 60 SECOND TIMER LIKE THE ONE WE ARE OFFERING RECORDS ONE MINUTE EVERY TURN. SOME WATCHES HAVE MULTIPLE REGISTER RECORDING SECONDS, MINUTES, HOURS. SO, YOU PUSH A BUTTOM, OR PUSHER, OR PUSH-IN-CROWN AND THE TIMER STARTS AND RECORDS TIME.

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A-8 AND MOST OTHER WWII TIMERS WITH EXCEPTION OF GALLET
AND FEW OTHERS HAD SINGLE CROWN FOR WINDING AND AS PUSHER

SO, ONE CLICK ALWAYS STARTS THE TIMER. A SECOND CLICK, USING THE SAME SINGLE CROWN ON THE A-8 ,OR TOP PUSHER ON A CHRONO WATCH, STOPS THE WATCH/TIMER. IT STOPS WHERE IT IS RECORDING, IN THAT MOMENT; THAT IS THE ENTIRE REASON YOU USE A STOP WATCH.

NOW, WE THEN CLICK ONCE MORE AND IT RETURNS ALL HANDS TO TOP. THREE CLICKS WETHER USING ONE OR TWO PUSHERS..

SO, WHY ALL THIS WRITING AND READING? THIS ELGIN TIMER, BY ELGIN, FOR WWII USE, MADE IN MID 1944, HAS VA CROWN LIKE THE A-8, TURNING IT WINDS THE MOVEMENT LIKE THE A-8, BUT, THERE IS NO WAY TO CLICK TO GO STOP AND RETURN!

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A-8 HAS START STOP START COLUMN WHEEL
ABOVE PIC IS SHOT CLOSER TO CAMERA
NO COLUMN WHEELTIMER
BOTH ARE IDENTICAL BESIDE COLUMN WHEEL

THIS TIMER DID NOT HAVE A COLUMN WHEEL OR ANY OTHER EARLEIR MECHANISM TO START STOP AND RETURN THE TIMER. IT WAS ACTUALLY CREATED FROM A BASIC A-8 CONFIGURATION AND THE COLUMN WHEEL WAS LEFT OUT WITH PURPOSE.

The column wheel is a plate with columns on it. It serves as a switch between start, stop and reset functions.

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A MECHANISM WAS DESIGNED AND PLACED WHERE THE COLUMN WHEEL WOULD BE.THUS, WHEN YOU PUSH THE CROWN IN AND HOLD IT, THE TIMER STARTS AND RUNS. WHEN YOU RELEASE IT, IT RETURNS THE HANDS TO "TOP".  THERE IS NO START TIME STOP AND RETURN,. WHEN YOU ADD THE GIZMO THAT BOLTS INTO THE CASE BACK, IT WOULD SEEM THIS TIMER WOULD AUTOMATICALLY START THROUGH A SET PROCESS THAT PUSHED THE CROWN DOWN OR UP INTO SOMTHING WHICH CAUSED THE TIMER TO START. WE HAVE READ THAT IT HAD SOMTHING TO DO WITH BOMBING.

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..HERE IS THE MOVEMENT WITH RODICO HOLDING THE BALANCE FROM RUNNING. YOU CAN SEE IT IS LIKE THE A-8 WITH LARGER BALANCE.

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 YOU VCAN SEE THAT THERE IS NO BALE/BAIL. NOTHING BUT AS LONG TUBE WITH CROWN THAT HAS A BALL TOP WHICH GOES WITH THE FACT THIS TIMER WAS PRESSED INTO AN OBJECT AND THEN WAS PULLED OFF THE OBJECT. HAVING A CLICK THREE TIMES MECHANISM WOULD HINDER THE OPERATION.

 

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NEW ELGIN LARGE BALANCE

A-8 SMALL BALANCE

THOUGH BOTH ARE THE SAME.
THE BALANCE/ESCAPEMEBNT AND CONTROLS ARE DIFFERENT. 

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THE A-8 CASE IS NICKLE PLATED, THIS TIMER IS SOLID NICKLE.


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THE  DIAL WAS IN EXCELLENT SHAPE
ABOVE PIC BEFORE CLEANING

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THE HANDS WERE IN BAD SHAPE WITH RUST FLAKING
YET THERE WAS NO DAMAGE TO MOVEMENT OR SCREWS

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TIMING FUNCTION WORKS PERFECT

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II REMOVED THE HANDS
TREATED THEM
THEN PAINTED THEM

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HERE THEY ARE BEING UV SEALED ON THE TIMER

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DIAL CLEANED REPLACED HANDS SET AND SEALED

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NOTE THE LONG TUBE AND LARGER THAN NORMAL CROWN.

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THE CROWN HAS A ROUND
WITH FLAT EXTENDED BUBBLE TOP
COMBINED WITH THE DEEP CROWN
IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED TO
MAKE IT WORK FOR PUSHING DOWN
ON METAL OBJECTS

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I DECIDED NOT TO CHANGE THE CELLULOID BASED  CRYSTAL
I HAVE  A TECHNIQUE TO CLEAN THE YELLOWING
BUT, AGAIN, I RATHER KEEP THE ORIGINAL

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REPAIRS TO LEATHER POUCH

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THE POUCH HAD MINOR DAMAGE

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SOME STITCHING AND CEMENT FIXED HER UP

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UV TREATING

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CONDITION WATCH:
EXCELLENT  -  RUNS EXCELLENT

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UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE all watches offered by GSW have been SERVICED. Some required REPAIR AND RESTORATION! Normal Servicing of Mechanical Watches by an EXPERT PROFESSIONAL will run between $180.00 to 580.00, depending on the complication of the movement and that is WITHOUT parts that may be required. SERVICING means DISASSEMBLING THE ENTIRE WATCH AND MOVEMENT, CLEANING SAME, OILING, LUBING AND REASSEMBLING, timing and Sealing. RESTORATION is a separate service from SERVICING and may include CRYSTAL, DIAL, HANDS, CASE, LUGS and BAND. So, WHEN YOU VIEW VINTAGE AND CLASSIC WATCHES OFFERED BY OTHER VENDORS/DEALERS, the question is: WAS THE WATCH SERVICED?

All watches, from mechanical to quartz devices, require periodic cleaning and inspection. GSW provides both cleaning and repair services with our main specialty that of restoring and repairing classic & vintage watches. GSW has established parts accounts with the oldest watch parts houses in the world as well as a network of watch dealers and repair centers around the world. GSW also provides dial restoration services. In addition to servicing new, vintage & classic watches, we also service high grade wristwatches. Think of your watch as you would a fine automobile, it is worth maintaining as it will increase your pleasure of ownership and also enhance the resale or trade-in value. If you plan on passing your watch on to the next generation, skilled periodic maintenance will be greatly appreciated in the future. Visit our studio gallery online for info on restoring or repairing your watch !